MYSTIC RIVER: Anyone else think it is a horrible movie?

[David Mills]

If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.

**SPOILERS**



The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.

Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.

-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****

-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****

-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****

-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****

Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?

Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."

MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

[Bacchus]

3 out of 5 movie.

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

[R. Cohen]

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****

To make it look more like a brutal murder? Plus there was the whole
relationship thing the brothers had.

Post by David Mills
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****

That confused me as well. Someone else mentioned that it indicated
Sean *was* going to go after him next. Maybe it was the "brotherhood"
thing.

Post by David Mills
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****

Well I saw a couple of things going on there. Quite simply, many
didn't want to talk to her because they knew he had been murdered
incorrectly. Who would want to talk to someone in that circumstance?
That makes perfect sense to me. The other part was the need for
Jimmy and his wife to stand together. Part of that concept of family
solidarity that was so important just one scene earlier.

Post by David Mills
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****

What she was saying that he was a real "man" and father because he
would do *anything* to protect and avenge his family even if innocent
people died in the process. The premise is that you'll do *anything*
for your family and that's why she still loved and respected Jimmy.
It was also her way of consoling Jimmy who did seem to have regrets as
*her* way of supporting him no matter what. Which is why she didn't
respect Celeste because she would not support her husband no matter
what. Is that concept *that* unusual? I don't think so.

Post by David Mills
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

Awwww. It may not have been the perfect film and it certainly had it's
plot holes but "SUCKS"? Let's just say you didn't like the ending.

[Jim S.]

That confused me as well. Someone else mentioned that it indicated Sean *was* going to go after him next.
Maybe it was the "brotherhood" thing.

In the book, he does the little finger gun point thing too, but it is very clear that he is going to try to nail
Jimmy for the deed he done. Too bad they didn't get that across in the movie. Perhaps they wanted to go for
"artistic" ambiguity.
--
Jim S.

[zach]

[superfluous groups snipped]

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

Then you don't understand the concept of Tragedy. Nor concept of white
trash circling the wagons. What, are you pissed because you didn't
walk out of the movie feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? Does a good
movie have to hold your hand like a little child and lead you to where
your feelings should be? Did you actually *want* to feel sorry for
Jimmy? Or was it that you did because he lost his daughter, but felt
betrayed when he acted like the common street thug piece-of-crap that
he was?

[David Mills]

Post by zach
Then you don't understand the concept of Tragedy. Nor concept of white
trash circling the wagons. What, are you pissed because you didn't
walk out of the movie feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? Does a good
movie have to hold your hand like a little child and lead you to where
your feelings should be? Did you actually *want* to feel sorry for
Jimmy? Or was it that you did because he lost his daughter, but felt
betrayed when he acted like the common street thug piece-of-crap that
he was?

No, I was just hoping to see your white trash mother fucking a horse
at the end credits, that's all.

Your surrender is noted.

[nmstevens]

Post by zach
[superfluous groups snipped]

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

Then you don't understand the concept of Tragedy. Nor concept of white
trash circling the wagons. What, are you pissed because you didn't
walk out of the movie feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? Does a good
movie have to hold your hand like a little child and lead you to where
your feelings should be? Did you actually *want* to feel sorry for
Jimmy? Or was it that you did because he lost his daughter, but felt
betrayed when he acted like the common street thug piece-of-crap that
he was?

I think that I understand the concept of tragedy, and I also happen to
think that the ending of Mystic River was poor. The murder of Sean
Penn's daughter had nothing to do with the tragedy of all those year's
ago. What happened to Tim Robbins on the night the crime had nothing
to do with the murder of Sean Penn's daughter but was simply the
wildest of disconnected coincidences. Even the connection between Sean
Penn having been responsible for the death of the daughter's
boyfriend's father had no connection her murder. Even *that* was
purely coincidental.

That's not a tragedy. That's just a bunch of coincidences leading to a
someone being killed who happened to have a coicidental relationship
to something bad that happened a bunch of years ago. No real
connection to the contemporary killing -- which is what all of the
events of the story were promising -- that somehow what had happened
back them had somehow led to this terrible happening -- is not
directly then somehow indirectly. But no. One had nothing to do with
the other.

I think that the first seven-eighths of "Mystic River" is a mighty
good movie -- but I also happen to think that the ending is a great
disappointment. I don't care whether a movie has a downbeat ending or
not -- I just want it have a good ending, not a bad ending. And this
was a bad ending. It was a "mystery story" ending -- "Ah-hah! The
supposedly mute brother of the dead girl's boyfriend was the killer,
bet you didn't suspect him!" Who cares? This wasn't a mystery. This
wasn't about the "mystery" of who killed the girl. This was about the
consequences of a long, unhealed wound -- and we were led to believe
that that was the story that we were really watching. And that story
didn't have jack shit to do with the dead girl's boyfriend's
supposedly mute brother.

NMS

[stace]

Post by nmstevens
I think that I understand the concept of tragedy, and I also happen to
think that the ending of Mystic River was poor. The murder of Sean
Penn's daughter had nothing to do with the tragedy of all those year's
ago. What happened to Tim Robbins on the night the crime had nothing
to do with the murder of Sean Penn's daughter but was simply the
wildest of disconnected coincidences. Even the connection between Sean
Penn having been responsible for the death of the daughter's
boyfriend's father had no connection her murder. Even *that* was
purely coincidental.
That's not a tragedy. That's just a bunch of coincidences leading to a
someone being killed who happened to have a coicidental relationship
to something bad that happened a bunch of years ago. No real
connection to the contemporary killing -- which is what all of the
events of the story were promising -- that somehow what had happened
back them had somehow led to this terrible happening -- is not
directly then somehow indirectly. But no. One had nothing to do with
the other.
I think that the first seven-eighths of "Mystic River" is a mighty
good movie -- but I also happen to think that the ending is a great
disappointment. I don't care whether a movie has a downbeat ending or
not -- I just want it have a good ending, not a bad ending. And this
was a bad ending. It was a "mystery story" ending -- "Ah-hah! The
supposedly mute brother of the dead girl's boyfriend was the killer,
bet you didn't suspect him!" Who cares? This wasn't a mystery. This
wasn't about the "mystery" of who killed the girl. This was about the
consequences of a long, unhealed wound -- and we were led to believe
that that was the story that we were really watching. And that story
didn't have jack shit to do with the dead girl's boyfriend's
supposedly mute brother.
NMS

I haven't read or watched anything about the movie as I was in the process
of reading the book, but I finished it 4 days ago, and I have to say that I
agree with your assessment, Neal.

As I closed the book, all I could think of was that the author had set up so
many coincidences only to provide a shock ending, without having any of it
make sense.

There was alot of great set up in this book, I'd say your 7/8ths comment was
bang on. But the last 30 pages flushed it all down the shitter.

If you are going to deal in coincidences wouldn't it be better to have them
tie into each other, rather than have them all unrelated?
It would have made a lot more sense to me if the character of Dave Boyle HAD
killed Jimmy's kid...and was plotting to do something to Sean as well, for
them having let him be taken (in Dave's mind, anyway) all those years ago.

Too damned many red herrings in this book and movie.

See what The Sixth Sense has done? (Not knocking, it, it was great, but now
the imitators in search of the big shocker ending are grinding out crap)

stace

[Gene Harris]

Post by nmstevens
I think that the first seven-eighths of "Mystic River" is a mighty
good movie -- but I also happen to think that the ending is a great
disappointment. I don't care whether a movie has a downbeat ending or
not -- I just want it have a good ending, not a bad ending. And this
was a bad ending. It was a "mystery story" ending -- "Ah-hah! The
supposedly mute brother of the dead girl's boyfriend was the killer,
bet you didn't suspect him!" Who cares? This wasn't a mystery. This
wasn't about the "mystery" of who killed the girl. This was about the
consequences of a long, unhealed wound -- and we were led to believe
that that was the story that we were really watching. And that story
didn't have jack shit to do with the dead girl's boyfriend's
supposedly mute brother.

Yeah, I just saw this over the weekend, and you're absolutely right. Damn
good until the ending.

Plus the whole business with Sean's wife was grossly underdeveloped and
unconnected to the main story both externally and thematically. I suspect
that the novel goes into this relationship much more, and that the
filmmakers decided to leave some remnant of that story in because Dave and
Jimmy each had some "issues", so Sean needed to have his own "issue."

But I still thought it was pretty good overall, and the performances and
direction were uniformly of extremely high caliber.

Gene

[LeeGoldbrg]

I was underwhelmed by the book and even more underwhelmed by the movie. I just
don't get what the hoopla is about.

[Otto Mation (Caroline Freisen)]

Post by LeeGoldbrg
I was underwhelmed by the book and even more underwhelmed by the movie. I just
don't get what the hoopla is about.

And if we ask ourselves whether the movie would have drawn the same
critical acclaim and accolades if Joe Blow had directed it, we get a
clue. '-)

I don't understand why some -- according to the critics -- can do no
wrong, and others -- according to the critics -- rarely get things
right. Thank God crtics don't *always* determine box office!

Caroline

[Shlockhack]

Post by Otto Mation (Caroline Freisen)
I don't understand why some -- according to the critics -- can do no
wrong,

case in point: paul thomas anderson. i can't believe punch drunk love made so
many top-ten lists. it was a waste of celluloid. and my two hours.


----------------------------------------

Fennyman: Who is that? [Shakespeare]

Owner of the Rose Theater: Nobody. The Writer.

[zach]

<snippage>

Post by nmstevens

Post by zach

Post by David Mills
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

Then you don't understand the concept of Tragedy. Nor concept of white
trash circling the wagons. What, are you pissed because you didn't
walk out of the movie feeling all warm and fuzzy inside? Does a good
movie have to hold your hand like a little child and lead you to where
your feelings should be? Did you actually *want* to feel sorry for
Jimmy? Or was it that you did because he lost his daughter, but felt
betrayed when he acted like the common street thug piece-of-crap that
he was?

I think that I understand the concept of tragedy, and I also happen to
think that the ending of Mystic River was poor. The murder of Sean
Penn's daughter had nothing to do with the tragedy of all those year's
ago. What happened to Tim Robbins on the night the crime had nothing
to do with the murder of Sean Penn's daughter but was simply the
wildest of disconnected coincidences. Even the connection between Sean
Penn having been responsible for the death of the daughter's
boyfriend's father had no connection her murder. Even *that* was
purely coincidental.
That's not a tragedy. That's just a bunch of coincidences leading to a
someone being killed who happened to have a coicidental relationship
to something bad that happened a bunch of years ago. No real
connection to the contemporary killing -- which is what all of the
events of the story were promising -- that somehow what had happened
back them had somehow led to this terrible happening -- is not
directly then somehow indirectly. But no. One had nothing to do with
the other.
I think that the first seven-eighths of "Mystic River" is a mighty
good movie -- but I also happen to think that the ending is a great
disappointment. I don't care whether a movie has a downbeat ending or
not -- I just want it have a good ending, not a bad ending. And this
was a bad ending. It was a "mystery story" ending -- "Ah-hah! The
supposedly mute brother of the dead girl's boyfriend was the killer,
bet you didn't suspect him!" Who cares? This wasn't a mystery. This
wasn't about the "mystery" of who killed the girl. This was about the
consequences of a long, unhealed wound -- and we were led to believe
that that was the story that we were really watching. And that story
didn't have jack shit to do with the dead girl's boyfriend's
supposedly mute brother.

Well, you cast a light upon it such that I can't really argue with
what you said, really. The point I got, however, was the inability of
the characters to move beyond how they were defined in childhood-
Jimmy being the troublemaker/small-time thug, and Tim Robbins' (forget
the name) being screwed up by his rape. Penn's and Bacon's characters
did nothing to help when Robbins was taken, and they repeated the same
thing as adults, totally abandoning him as a friend. Jimmy's wife, in
the end, merely verbalized what was shown, seeming like a psychopath,
even though she did not actually do anything. Even after the murder,
the characters STILL can't get past what they have done, as shown by
the ostracization of Robbins' wife's character-- though on the surface
that would be simple guilt for what they have done.

The whole thing with the mute kid and the murder are merely vehicles
to show the true nature of the characters, which is what the story was
really about. Maybe I am putting too much into it, but that is how I
see it.

[Jack Lefton]

Post by zach
The whole thing with the mute kid and the murder are merely vehicles
to show the true nature of the characters, which is what the story was
really about. Maybe I am putting too much into it, but that is how I
see it.

And as such, it was not very good. For a great film about three damaged
people, starring Sean Penn, wait for "21 Grams". It blows "Mystic River"
away.

[Jay Browning]

I saw the movie at a free screening so at least I can say that I didn't
waste my money.

I liked most of the film.

Until the ending. My biggest complaint is that it reeked of a bad deus
ex machina style ending. An implication that the kid did it on purpose
out of an obsessive love for his brother (who was about to leave) would
have been more satisfying ending. Plus it would have fit with the
twisted world of the film.

[Ron]

Post by Jay Browning
I saw the movie at a free screening so at least I can say that I didn't
waste my money.
I liked most of the film.

I don't really enjoy talking about what I didn't like about this film--
because it's so much better than much of what gets made-- but I agree
with what people are saying about the ending. It felt tacked-on and
unrelated-- a trick by the writer who wanted (IMHO) Jimmy to kill Dave
but then to have us all feel bad about it.

Did anybody else notice that Jimmy identifies his daughter's body twice?

But even Sean Penn's performance-- I think he made good choices, but
this looks like a movie directed by an actor. Somebody should have said
to Sean, "Hey, you're doing great work-- now hide it!" He's capable of
it-- see his performance in Dead Man Walking, which is, IMHO, infinitely
more interesting simply because he's not wearing his heart of his sleeve.

In addition to the problem of the "whodunnit," which others have
suggested, what was up with that scene with Laura Liney and Sean Penn at
the end, where she's suddenly getting all Lady MacBeth-ish on him? That
was just bizzare, and didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the movie.

I would never call it a horrible movie, but it's not as good as the
hype would have you believe.

-Ron

[WareWolf]

Post by Ron
In addition to the problem of the "whodunnit," which others have
suggested, what was up with that scene with Laura Liney and Sean Penn at
the end, where she's suddenly getting all Lady MacBeth-ish on him? That
was just bizzare, and didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the movie.

Actually, the part that made both me and my wife go "huh?" is the time
factor.

Jimmy's looking out the window at the parade, his wife comes in, makes
the speech, throws him on the bed, and pretty obviously jumps his
bones...then they go downstairs (presumably after getting dressed) and
the parade is still going on. Either that's one REALLY long parade, or
Jimmy's one of those seven second wonders.

Dusty

[WareWolf]

Post by Jay Browning
I saw the movie at a free screening so at least I can say that I didn't
waste my money.
I liked most of the film.
Until the ending. My biggest complaint is that it reeked of a bad deus
ex machina style ending. An implication that the kid did it on purpose
out of an obsessive love for his brother (who was about to leave) would
have been more satisfying ending. Plus it would have fit with the
twisted world of the film.

IIRC, that was the motivation in the book. Someone who's read the book
more recently may have better info, cause it's been a while for me.
Why it was changed to "we were fucking around with a gun and it went
off" is mystifying.

Dusty

[John Harkness]

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:16:31 -0400, Stephen Cooke

Post by Jay Browning
I saw the movie at a free screening so at least I can say that I didn't
waste my money.
I liked most of the film.
Until the ending. My biggest complaint is that it reeked of a bad deus
ex machina style ending. An implication that the kid did it on purpose
out of an obsessive love for his brother (who was about to leave) would
have been more satisfying ending. Plus it would have fit with the
twisted world of the film.

Oddly enough, I pegged the "mute" early on as a suspect, for precisely
that reason, and then it turns out to be some random goofing around with
his bad friend...I just thought WTF?
And I still don't understand why they phoned 911 or why MGH would confess
her fears to Penn, knowing she was signing her husband's death warrant. It
all just seemed like plot mechanics.

They phoned 911 out of remorse, a sort of "oh shit, we fucked up"
reaction -- they didn't plan the thing or think it through.

As to Harden's character, she thinks her husband has lot his mind --
her reactions become increasingly fearful, and she's beginning to fear
for her own life.

John Harkness

OTOH, it was nice to see "The Good" working with "The Ugly" once again...
swac

[RickB]

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

I read the book and thought it was pretty good, no real desire to see
the movie since book->movies translations are usually piss-poor.

RickB

[Manic dep writer]

mystic river is an incredible film. i liked the fleshed out characters and the
plot.

i think you will find more people liked it than not.

mdw

[LIBERATOR]

LOL, I love it.

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

[monsieurblob]

Post by David Mills
If you haven't seen it yet, STAY AWAY from this trash.
It is a waste of money and time.
**SPOILERS**
The acting was incredible and the first 2 hours of the movie were very
entertaining.
Then, what happens?
This "GREAT" movie goes on to have possibly the worst ending in the
history of film.
-The boyfriends little brother and friend were just trying to scare
her and then because the gun just "went off" and hit her, now they
decide to chase her down and beat her with a hockey stick and then
shoot her in the head? ****MAKES ZERO SENSE****
-Sean knows that Jimmy killed Dave yet he is being buddy-buddy with
him at the end talking about how "they are still in that car" and blah
blah blah. Then he does the little finger-gun point to Jimmy during
the parade and Jimmy acknowledges it like they are friends.
****FUCKED UP****
-Then, Celeste is now the OUTCAST somehow. No one will even smile or
say hi to her during the parade. She is all alone after Jimmy has just
murdered her husband and she is somehow the bad person.
****STUPID****
-Then Jimmy's wife give that ridiculous speech about Jimmy being a
King and how big his heart is because he loves his daughters. That was
the biggest fucking crock of shit I have seen in a movie in a long
time. "Jimmy, it's ok that you killed an innocent man who happens to
be a childhood friend, it's ok because you had some suspicions that he
might be the killer. Plus, look at is this way, he admitted it after
you begged him to admit to it for 15 minutes and that you would let
him live. You're a great husband and father." *****REALLY FUCING
STUPID*****
Clint Eastwood has proven to be a jackass with a piece of shit film
like this, how can you take a movie that was great for the first 95%
of the film and then utterly destroy the entire movie in the last 10
minutes?
Anyone that likes this film is a moron who listens to the media about
what is the "Best Picture of the Year."
MYSTIC RIVER SUCKS...!

conservative?